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Subject: bug#157: more details?
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X-Loop: owner@bugs.devuan.org From: owner@bugs.devuan.org (Devuan bug Tracking System) To: KatolaZ <katolaz@freaknet.org> Subject: bug#157: Info received (was more details?) Message-ID: <handler.157.B157.151267200627684.ackinfo@bugs.devuan.org> In-Reply-To: <20171207183453.GA26595@katolaz.homeunix.net> References: <20171207183453.GA26595@katolaz.homeunix.net> Precedence: bulk X-Devuan-PR-Message: ack-info 157 X-Devuan-PR-Package: lvm2 X-Devuan-PR-Keywords: Disabled-Doogie-Reply-To: 157@bugs.devuan.org Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers mailing list to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): owner@bugs.devuan.org If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 157@bugs.devuan.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the bug-tracking system. Devuan Bugs Owner (administrator, Devuan bugs database)
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Klaus,
Now I know more about how your system is setup (from other bug reports you have
submitted), I am going to change the severity of this report to wishlist.
That doesn't mean I don't understand your concerns, or think that they are not
important. However, booting Debian without initramfs to mount /usr has not been
officially supported for a number of releases (Jessie or even Wheezy, I
think). I regret this and wish it still was a possibility. But that decision has
been made and I see no realistic or practical way of Devuan going against it.
I know that will be disappointing to you. If you have practical ways you think
we can achieve it, by all means say.
With thanks and best wishes
Mark
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Received: (at 157) by bugs.devuan.org; 5 Feb 2023 10:21:22 +0000 Return-Path: <mark@hindley.org.uk> Delivered-To: bugs@devuan.org Received: from email.devuan.org [2001:41d0:2:d06e::5c4:2612] by doc.devuan.org with IMAP (fetchmail-6.4.16) for <debbugs@localhost> (single-drop); Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from email.devuan.org by email.devuan.org with LMTP id zAFhCCCD32NDDAAAmSBk0A (envelope-from <mark@hindley.org.uk>) for <bugs@devuan.org>; Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:21:20 +0000 Received: by email.devuan.org (Postfix, from userid 109) id 120B7AFF; Sun, 5 Feb 2023 10:21:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on email.devuan.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_DYNAMIC,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=193.36.131.86; helo=mx.hindley.org.uk; envelope-from=mark@hindley.org.uk; receiver=<UNKNOWN> Received: from mx.hindley.org.uk (193-36-131-86.cfwn.uk [193.36.131.86]) by email.devuan.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2F0F2A8 for <157@bugs.devuan.org>; Sun, 5 Feb 2023 10:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from apollo.hindleynet ([192.168.1.3] helo=hindley.org.uk) by mx.hindley.org.uk with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <mark@hindley.org.uk>) id 1pOc98-00020B-IX; Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:21:18 +0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 25871 invoked by uid 1000); Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:21:18 -0000 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2023 10:21:18 +0000 From: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk> To: Klaus Ethgen <Klaus@ethgen.de> Cc: 157@bugs.devuan.org Subject: Re: bug#157: System does not boot due to dependency to /usr Message-ID: <Y9+DHhVGc2ORYBia@hindley.org.uk> References: <20171107155639.g4or4bb3igid6yat@ikki.ethgen.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20171107155639.g4or4bb3igid6yat@ikki.ethgen.ch> Control: severity -1 wishlist Control: tags -1 - moreinfo Klaus, Now I know more about how your system is setup (from other bug reports you have submitted), I am going to change the severity of this report to wishlist. That doesn't mean I don't understand your concerns, or think that they are not important. However, booting Debian without initramfs to mount /usr has not been officially supported for a number of releases (Jessie or even Wheezy, I think). I regret this and wish it still was a possibility. But that decision has been made and I see no realistic or practical way of Devuan going against it. I know that will be disappointing to you. If you have practical ways you think we can achieve it, by all means say. With thanks and best wishes Mark
Received: (at 157) by bugs.devuan.org; 5 Feb 2023 10:21:22 +0000 Return-Path: <mark@hindley.org.uk> Delivered-To: bugs@devuan.org Received: from email.devuan.org [2001:41d0:2:d06e::5c4:2612] by doc.devuan.org with IMAP (fetchmail-6.4.16) for <debbugs@localhost> (single-drop); Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from email.devuan.org by email.devuan.org with LMTP id zAFhCCCD32NDDAAAmSBk0A (envelope-from <mark@hindley.org.uk>) for <bugs@devuan.org>; Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:21:20 +0000 Received: by email.devuan.org (Postfix, from userid 109) id 120B7AFF; Sun, 5 Feb 2023 10:21:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on email.devuan.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_DYNAMIC,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=193.36.131.86; helo=mx.hindley.org.uk; envelope-from=mark@hindley.org.uk; receiver=<UNKNOWN> Received: from mx.hindley.org.uk (193-36-131-86.cfwn.uk [193.36.131.86]) by email.devuan.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2F0F2A8 for <157@bugs.devuan.org>; Sun, 5 Feb 2023 10:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from apollo.hindleynet ([192.168.1.3] helo=hindley.org.uk) by mx.hindley.org.uk with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <mark@hindley.org.uk>) id 1pOc98-00020B-IX; Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:21:18 +0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 25871 invoked by uid 1000); Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:21:18 -0000 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2023 10:21:18 +0000 From: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk> To: Klaus Ethgen <Klaus@ethgen.de> Cc: 157@bugs.devuan.org Subject: Re: bug#157: System does not boot due to dependency to /usr Message-ID: <Y9+DHhVGc2ORYBia@hindley.org.uk> References: <20171107155639.g4or4bb3igid6yat@ikki.ethgen.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20171107155639.g4or4bb3igid6yat@ikki.ethgen.ch> Control: severity -1 wishlist Control: tags -1 - moreinfo Klaus, Now I know more about how your system is setup (from other bug reports you have submitted), I am going to change the severity of this report to wishlist. That doesn't mean I don't understand your concerns, or think that they are not important. However, booting Debian without initramfs to mount /usr has not been officially supported for a number of releases (Jessie or even Wheezy, I think). I regret this and wish it still was a possibility. But that decision has been made and I see no realistic or practical way of Devuan going against it. I know that will be disappointing to you. If you have practical ways you think we can achieve it, by all means say. With thanks and best wishes Mark
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From: Klaus Ethgen <Klaus@ethgen.de>
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Hi Mark,
Am So den 5. Feb 2023 um 11:21 schrieb Mark Hindley:
> Now I know more about how your system is setup (from other bug reports yo=
u have
> submitted), I am going to change the severity of this report to wishlist.
>=20
> That doesn't mean I don't understand your concerns, or think that they ar=
e not
> important. However, booting Debian without initramfs to mount /usr has no=
t been
> officially supported for a number of releases (Jessie or even Wheezy, I
> think). I regret this and wish it still was a possibility. But that decis=
ion has
> been made and I see no realistic or practical way of Devuan going against=
it.
Yea, the decision was made for no needs just as P=F6ttering does not
understand what it is for.
They dropped all old systems like mine out of support.
But Linux is not that short living than windows. This makes it
absolutely unbelievable. Moreover, they put some extra effort into
explicitly breaking former working packages.
> I know that will be disappointing to you. If you have practical ways you =
think
> we can achieve it, by all means say.
As I have many experiences now, I can think of a way to do that. It
would mean to build a devuan fork of pcre2 source package with minimal
changes (as I did in
ftp://ftp.ethgen.ch/pub/debian/pool/unofficial/p/pcre2). All other
packages listed below could be made with a empty package only holding
diverts of the libraries. The reason for the different handling is that
if you divert pcre2 in between, it would break dpkg itself. So that is a
manual step or (as I did) with a patched package.
Here are the packages I identified, that are needed to be in /:
- libargon2-1
- libpopt0
- libkmod2
- liblz4-1
- libzstd1
- libjson-c3
- libjson-c4
- libjson-c5
- libssl1.1
- libssl-dev
- libssl3
- libaio1
- libacl1
- libattr1
- libuuid1
- libblkid1
- libelogind0
- libmount1
- libedit2
- libedit-dev
- libbsd0
- libmd0
But as I said, non of them needs to be changed if you do the diverting
one.
The dev packages are due they hold the unversioned .so symlink. And that
is needed in some rare situations.
Regards
Klaus
--=20
Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/
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