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Package: util-linux
Version: 2.33.1

Please see: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3346

Hello, friends!

I have the following situation in Devuan 2 and Devuan 3:

|hwclock --utc 2020-02-29 02:15:50.889268+03:00 hwclock --localtime 
2020-02-28 23:16:54.311448+03:00|

*This is wrong!!!*
Must be:

|hwclock --utc 2020-02-28 20:15:50.889268+03:00 hwclock --localtime 
2020-02-28 23:16:54.311448+03:00|

After a reboot, the BIOS sets the time to UTC, which should be localtime.

*Please report this issue to the hwclock developers.*

Thanks!

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    <pre>Package: util-linux
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Please see: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3346">https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3346</a>
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    <p>Hello, friends!</p>
    <p>I have the following situation in Devuan 2 and Devuan 3:</p>
    <div class="codebox">
      <pre><code>hwclock --utc
2020-02-29 02:15:50.889268+03:00
hwclock --localtime
2020-02-28 23:16:54.311448+03:00</code></pre>
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    <p><strong>This is wrong!!!</strong><br>
      Must be:</p>
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      <pre><code>hwclock --utc
2020-02-28 20:15:50.889268+03:00
hwclock --localtime
2020-02-28 23:16:54.311448+03:00</code></pre>
    </div>
    <p>After a reboot, the BIOS sets the time to UTC, which should be
      localtime.</p>
    <p><strong>Please report this issue to the hwclock developers.</strong></p>
    <p>Thanks!</p>
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Andrey,

Thanks for this.

On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:50:12 +0300 Andrey Nikitushkin <[email protected]> wrote:
> Package: util-linux
> Version: 2.33.1
> 
> Please see: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3346
> 
> Hello, friends!
> 
> I have the following situation in Devuan 2 and Devuan 3:
> 
> |hwclock --utc 2020-02-29 02:15:50.889268+03:00
> hwclock --localtime 2020-02-28 23:16:54.311448+03:00|
> 
> *This is wrong!!!*
> Must be:
> 
> |hwclock --utc 2020-02-28 20:15:50.889268+03:00
> hwclock --localtime 2020-02-28 23:16:54.311448+03:00|

I think you might be misunderstanding here.

As stated in hwclock(8), the --utc option is not to print the UTC time but to
tell hwclock that the BIOS clock is set to UTC. This can be used to override
what is in /etc/adjtime.

What is your BIOS clock set to?

What do you have in /etc/adjtime?

Thanks

Mark

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Andrey,

Thanks for this.

On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:50:12 +0300 Andrey Nikitushkin <[email protected]> wrote:
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> 
> Please see: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3346
> 
> Hello, friends!
> 
> I have the following situation in Devuan 2 and Devuan 3:
> 
> |hwclock --utc 2020-02-29 02:15:50.889268+03:00
> hwclock --localtime 2020-02-28 23:16:54.311448+03:00|
> 
> *This is wrong!!!*
> Must be:
> 
> |hwclock --utc 2020-02-28 20:15:50.889268+03:00
> hwclock --localtime 2020-02-28 23:16:54.311448+03:00|

I think you might be misunderstanding here.

As stated in hwclock(8), the --utc option is not to print the UTC time but to
tell hwclock that the BIOS clock is set to UTC. This can be used to override
what is in /etc/adjtime.

What is your BIOS clock set to?

What do you have in /etc/adjtime?

Thanks

Mark

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On Sun, Mar 01, 2020 at 09:15:45PM +0300, Andrey Nikitushkin wrote:
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> 
> I don't set the time in the BIOS manually. The time in the BIOS is set
> automatically when I restart my laptop with Debian. The time in the BIOS
> during a reboot is set based on the values received from hwclock, the time
> in the BIOS based on the hwclock information should be as localtime, not
> UTC. That's why I wrote about the problem with hwclock.
> 
> My /etc/adjtime:
> 
> 0.000000 1582921088 0.000000
> 1582921088
> LOCAL

Exactly. So you have it configured to save localtime to the hwclock.

Therefore, if you call 'hwclock --utc' you will get the wrong information,
becuase your hwclock is not set to UTC.

Please read hwclock(8). You should be using 'hwclock --localtime' or relying on
what is in /etc/adjtime.

Mark

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On Sun, Mar 01, 2020 at 09:30:41PM +0300, Andrey Nikitushkin wrote:
> Mark!
> 
> 1. I didn't set up anything myself!
> 
> 2. The error is with hwclock, because UTC should not be +03:00. UTC must be
> +00:00!!!

I am sorry, but you are misunderstanding.

'hwclock --utc' does NOT mean print the hclock time in UTC equivalent.
It means print the hwclock time and I have the hwclock SET to UTC.

Mark

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On Sun, Mar 01, 2020 at 06:40:00PM +0000, Mark Hindley wrote:
> > 2. The error is with hwclock, because UTC should not be +03:00. UTC must be
> > +00:00!!!
> 
> I am sorry, but you are misunderstanding.
> 
> 'hwclock --utc' does NOT mean print the hclock time in UTC equivalent.
> It means print the hwclock time and I have the hwclock SET to UTC.

Please read hwclock(8). In particular:

 --localtime
 -u, --utc
        Indicate which timescale the Hardware Clock is set to.

 -r, --show
 --get
        Read  the  Hardware  Clock  and print the time on standard output.  The
 	time shown is always in local time,
 	even if you keep your Hardware Clock in UTC.

Mark

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I'm not a tolerant person and I don't really dislike psychos. I told you 
earlier that UTC is +00:00, not +03: 00. I'm sorry you don't understand 
this, and you're arguing with me. Don't write to me again, Troll. I 
won't answer you. I repeat again: I don't LIKE PSYCHOS! I FUCK THEM!

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On 3/1/20 9:44 PM, Mark Hindley wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 01, 2020 at 06:40:00PM +0000, Mark Hindley wrote:
>>> 2. The error is with hwclock, because UTC should not be +03:00. UTC must be
>>> +00:00!!!
>> I am sorry, but you are misunderstanding.
>>
>> 'hwclock --utc' does NOT mean print the hclock time in UTC equivalent.
>> It means print the hwclock time and I have the hwclock SET to UTC.
> Please read hwclock(8). In particular:
>
>   --localtime
>   -u, --utc
>          Indicate which timescale the Hardware Clock is set to.
>
>   -r, --show
>   --get
>          Read  the  Hardware  Clock  and print the time on standard output.  The
>   	time shown is always in local time,
>   	even if you keep your Hardware Clock in UTC.
>
> Mark

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Please see: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3346

Hello, friends!

I have the following situation in Devuan 2 and Devuan 3:

|hwclock --utc 2020-02-29 02:15:50.889268+03:00 hwclock --localtime 
2020-02-28 23:16:54.311448+03:00|

*This is wrong!!!*
Must be:

|hwclock --utc 2020-02-28 20:15:50.889268+03:00 hwclock --localtime 
2020-02-28 23:16:54.311448+03:00|

After a reboot, the BIOS sets the time to UTC, which should be localtime.

*Please report this issue to the hwclock developers.*

Thanks!

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    <pre>Package: util-linux
Version: 2.33.1

Please see: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3346">https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3346</a>
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    <p>Hello, friends!</p>
    <p>I have the following situation in Devuan 2 and Devuan 3:</p>
    <div class="codebox">
      <pre><code>hwclock --utc
2020-02-29 02:15:50.889268+03:00
hwclock --localtime
2020-02-28 23:16:54.311448+03:00</code></pre>
    </div>
    <p><strong>This is wrong!!!</strong><br>
      Must be:</p>
    <div class="codebox">
      <pre><code>hwclock --utc
2020-02-28 20:15:50.889268+03:00
hwclock --localtime
2020-02-28 23:16:54.311448+03:00</code></pre>
    </div>
    <p>After a reboot, the BIOS sets the time to UTC, which should be
      localtime.</p>
    <p><strong>Please report this issue to the hwclock developers.</strong></p>
    <p>Thanks!</p>
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