Devuan bug report logs - #53
Website not working when using TLSA

Package: devuan-www; Severity: grave; Reported by: Klaus Ethgen <[email protected]>; Done: "Ralph Ronnquist (rrq)" <[email protected]>; Maintainer for devuan-www is (unknown).

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

Package: devuan-www
Severity: important

Since several months, the web page (www.devuan.org) is not viewable for
those who care about security and trust only the certificate that the
owner has access to instead of every untrusted CA.

The way to do that is DNSSEC with TLSA and thankfully, devuan does
support that.

Unfortunately, since several months, (I believe, when devuan switched to
that horrable Let's encrypt) the page doesn't match the TLSA record
anymore. That leads to a unviewable page if one cares about security.

So the TLSA record should be updated to match the SSL certificate of the
page (or the right SSL certificate should be used).

There are few solutions for this if it is really the switch to Let's
encrypt that is the cause:
- - Every time you replace the SSL certificate, update the TLSA record
  too. That is very painful as Let's encrypt drives security adabsurdum
  by replacing the certificate with every single new load. (Keep in
  mind, not everyone is checking the side every hour.) That is the most
  stupid (sorry) way.
- - Get a certificate from a more stable source that is not replacing the
  certificates that often. You still need to change the TLSA record
  every time you replace the certificate. That is, in my opinion, the
  most reliable way.
- - If you don't care about the fucked up CA stuff, just generate a self
  signed certificate and put the right stuff into TLSA record. This is
  the most honest way to go but realistically, as browser vendors seems
  to passively boycott DNSSEC, this is no way to go for a site like
  devuan.
- - The last way would be to use the CA fingerprint instead of the one of
  the actual certificate. Or use the fingerprint of the key if you don't
  change it with every certificate renewal. This is making good face on
  a bad matter but it is working too.

Regards
   Klaus
- -- 
Klaus Ethgen                                       http://www.ethgen.ch/
pub  4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16            Klaus Ethgen <[email protected]>
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Acknowledgement sent to Klaus Ethgen <[email protected]>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to golinux <[email protected]>.

Your message specified a Severity: in the pseudo-header, but the severity value important was not recognised. The default severity normal is being used instead. The recognised values are: critical, grave, normal, minor, wishlist.

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Report forwarded to [email protected], golinux <[email protected]>:
bug#53; Package devuan-www. Full text available.

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