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Package: fwupd
Version: 1.5.7-4

Dear maintainer,

The fwupd package on Devuan only ships systemd services and timers.
To be functional on Devuan it should ship sysvinit scripts and a refresh =
cron job, instead.

I verified this "bug" to occur on beowulf and chimaera.

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Dennis,

Thanks for this. It is not software I am farmiliar with, but I have had a quick
look an installed it in a VM.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 10:53:28AM +0200, Dennis Camera wrote:
> Package: fwupd
> Version: 1.5.7-4
> 
> Dear maintainer,
> 
> The fwupd package on Devuan only ships systemd services and timers.
> To be functional on Devuan it should ship sysvinit scripts and a refresh cron job, instead.

AFAICS the service files are dbus activatable. As such they still work on
Devuan. The thing that is missing is a cron script.

I ran '/usr/bin/fwupdmgr refresh' from the command line without issue or
error. After running this, the output of 'busctl' showed that the
org.freedesktop.fwup service had been started correctly.

Can you verify that?

Is there anything else, from a functional perspective, that you expect to
happen?

Thanks.

Mark

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Dennis,

Thanks for this. It is not software I am farmiliar with, but I have had a quick
look an installed it in a VM.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 10:53:28AM +0200, Dennis Camera wrote:
> Package: fwupd
> Version: 1.5.7-4
> 
> Dear maintainer,
> 
> The fwupd package on Devuan only ships systemd services and timers.
> To be functional on Devuan it should ship sysvinit scripts and a refresh cron job, instead.

AFAICS the service files are dbus activatable. As such they still work on
Devuan. The thing that is missing is a cron script.

I ran '/usr/bin/fwupdmgr refresh' from the command line without issue or
error. After running this, the output of 'busctl' showed that the
org.freedesktop.fwup service had been started correctly.

Can you verify that?

Is there anything else, from a functional perspective, that you expect to
happen?

Thanks.

Mark

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Dear Mark,

> On 19 Jul 2021, at 12:26, Mark Hindley <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 10:53:28AM +0200, Dennis Camera wrote:
>> The fwupd package on Devuan only ships systemd services and timers.
>> To be functional on Devuan it should ship sysvinit scripts and a =
refresh cron job, instead.
>=20
> AFAICS the service files are dbus activatable. As such they still work =
on
> Devuan.=20

Oh, it didn=E2=80=99t occur to me that .service files can be launched by =
anything else than systemd.

> The thing that is missing is a cron script.

Now that I=E2=80=99m thinking more about this, one can argue if the =
package should install e cron job by default.
Maybe some users wouldn=E2=80=99t want to have fwupd auto-update (like =
apt-get also doesn=E2=80=99t auto-update by default).

Maybe just adding a section on how to create such a cron job to =
README.Debian or
adding a debconf question would be the better choice.

> I ran '/usr/bin/fwupdmgr refresh' from the command line without issue =
or
> error. After running this, the output of 'busctl' showed that the
> org.freedesktop.fwup service had been started correctly.
>=20
> Can you verify that?

Yes, when I execute fwupdmgr, the fwupd daemon is started automatically.

> Is there anything else, from a functional perspective, that you expect =
to
> happen?

Currently, I don=E2=80=99t know. I couldn=E2=80=99t get fwupd to work as =
I wanted to, yet.
At first I thought it was because of the package assuming systemd to be =
present,
but as it turns out this is not the issue.

Possibly adding a cron job for the refresh process could be seen as an =
improvement,
but I can imagine that opinions differ on that.

As far as I=E2=80=99m concerned this bug can be closed.

Thanks for your assistance.
- Dennis

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Dear maintainer,

The fwupd package on Devuan only ships systemd services and timers.
To be functional on Devuan it should ship sysvinit scripts and a refresh =
cron job, instead.

I verified this "bug" to occur on beowulf and chimaera.

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On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 01:15:57PM +0200, Dennis Camera wrote:
> Now that I’m thinking more about this, one can argue if the package should install e cron job by default.
> Maybe some users wouldn’t want to have fwupd auto-update (like apt-get also
> doesn’t auto-update by default).

AFAICS, the systemd timer to update motd requires manual activation by the
sysadmin, so Debian maintainers agree with you on this! See data/motd/README.md
in the source.

> Maybe just adding a section on how to create such a cron job to README.Debian or
> adding a debconf question would be the better choice.

Devuan doesn't currently fork this package, so maybe the best solution is to
submit a cron fragment to Debian for inclusion in contrib or similar.

> > I ran '/usr/bin/fwupdmgr refresh' from the command line without issue or
> > error. After running this, the output of 'busctl' showed that the
> > org.freedesktop.fwup service had been started correctly.
> > 
> > Can you verify that?
> 
> Yes, when I execute fwupdmgr, the fwupd daemon is started automatically.

Good!

> As far as I’m concerned this bug can be closed.

Thanks.

Closing.

Mark
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On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 01:15:57PM +0200, Dennis Camera wrote:
> Now that I’m thinking more about this, one can argue if the package should install e cron job by default.
> Maybe some users wouldn’t want to have fwupd auto-update (like apt-get also
> doesn’t auto-update by default).

AFAICS, the systemd timer to update motd requires manual activation by the
sysadmin, so Debian maintainers agree with you on this! See data/motd/README.md
in the source.

> Maybe just adding a section on how to create such a cron job to README.Debian or
> adding a debconf question would be the better choice.

Devuan doesn't currently fork this package, so maybe the best solution is to
submit a cron fragment to Debian for inclusion in contrib or similar.

> > I ran '/usr/bin/fwupdmgr refresh' from the command line without issue or
> > error. After running this, the output of 'busctl' showed that the
> > org.freedesktop.fwup service had been started correctly.
> > 
> > Can you verify that?
> 
> Yes, when I execute fwupdmgr, the fwupd daemon is started automatically.

Good!

> As far as I’m concerned this bug can be closed.

Thanks.

Closing.

Mark
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Dear maintainer,

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To be functional on Devuan it should ship sysvinit scripts and a refresh =
cron job, instead.

I verified this "bug" to occur on beowulf and chimaera.

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