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Package: man-db
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Dear Maintainer,

*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***

   * What led up to the situation?
$ man open

   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
     ineffective)?
$ man open

   * What was the outcome of this action?
The manpage of xdg-open, /usr/share/man/man1/xdg-open.1.gz, from package "xdg-op

   * What outcome did you expect instead?
The manpage of "open", /usr/share/man/man2/open.2.gz, from package "manpages-dev


-- System Information:
Distributor ID: Devuan
Description:	Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus/ceres)
Release:    5
Codename:   daedalus ceres
Architecture: x86_64

Kernel: Linux 5.15.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/12 CPU threads)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_M
Locale: LANG=de_AT.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_AT.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=de_AT:d
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: sysvinit (via /sbin/init)

Versions of packages man-db depends on:
ii  bsdextrautils          2.37.3-1+devuan1
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0]  1.5.79
ii  groff-base             1.22.4-8
ii  libc6                  2.33-5
ii  libgdbm6               1.22-1
ii  libpipeline1           1.5.5-1
ii  libseccomp2            2.5.3-2
ii  zlib1g                 1:1.2.11.dfsg-2

man-db recommends no packages.

Versions of packages man-db suggests:
pn  apparmor                            <none>
ii  firefox-esr [www-browser]		91.5.0esr-1
ii  google-chrome-stable [www-browser]  98.0.4758.80-1
ii  groff                               1.22.4-8
ii  konqueror-trinity [www-browser]	4:14.1.0~s911-0debian12.0.0+17~a
ii  less                                590-1
ii  lynx [www-browser]			2.9.0dev.10-1

-- debconf information:
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Nikolaus,

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 09:42:40AM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Package: man-db
> Version: 2.9.4-4

Thanks for this. However neither man-db, xdg-utils not manpages-dev are forked
packages in Devuan and we use Debian's packages directly without recompilation.

Please report this issue to Debian's BTS.

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Mark

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Nikolaus,

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 09:42:40AM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Package: man-db
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Thanks for this. However neither man-db, xdg-utils not manpages-dev are forked
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Please report this issue to Debian's BTS.

Thanks.

Mark

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Got a "wontfix" and "bug closed" from Debian:

"Yes, that's because /usr/share/man/man1/open.1.gz exists as an
alternative which is symlinked to xdg-open.1.gz on your system (via
alternatives), and section 1 is first in the priority list, so man is
working as designed.  Use "man 2 open" to get the page for the system
call."

What nutball does such things?

Nik



Anno domini 2022 Wed, 16 Feb 15:20:19 +0000
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> Control: tags -1 debian
>
> Nikolaus,
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 09:42:40AM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Package: man-db
> > Version: 2.9.4-4
>
> Thanks for this. However neither man-db, xdg-utils not manpages-dev are =
forked
> packages in Devuan and we use Debian's packages directly without recompi=
lation.
>
> Please report this issue to Debian's BTS.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mark
>



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Dear Maintainer,

*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***

   * What led up to the situation?
$ man open

   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
     ineffective)?
$ man open

   * What was the outcome of this action?
The manpage of xdg-open, /usr/share/man/man1/xdg-open.1.gz, from package "xdg-op

   * What outcome did you expect instead?
The manpage of "open", /usr/share/man/man2/open.2.gz, from package "manpages-dev


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On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:42:40 +0100
"Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <[email protected]> wrote:
>    * What led up to the situation?
> $ man open
> 
>    * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
>      ineffective)?
> $ man open
> 
>    * What was the outcome of this action?
> The manpage of xdg-open, /usr/share/man/man1/xdg-open.1.gz, from
> package "xdg-op
> 
>    * What outcome did you expect instead?
> The manpage of "open", /usr/share/man/man2/open.2.gz, from package
> "manpages-dev

The command is working as intended.

When manpages in multiple sections of the manual share the same name,
the page from the earliest section of the manual is fetched and
displayed in response to running 'man <manpage>'.

The xdg-utils package includes an alias for /usr/bin/xdg-open in the
form of /usr/bin/open. A manpage alias is included in the same fashion,
thus both sections 1 and 2 of the manual have a manpage for 'open'.

To specify from which section of the manual to display a manpage,
proceed the name of the manpage with the section number,
i.e.'man 2 open'. To display matching manpages from all sections, use
the -a option, i.e. 'man -a open'.

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:42:40 +0100
"Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <[email protected]> wrote:
>    * What led up to the situation?
> $ man open
> 
>    * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
>      ineffective)?
> $ man open
> 
>    * What was the outcome of this action?
> The manpage of xdg-open, /usr/share/man/man1/xdg-open.1.gz, from
> package "xdg-op
> 
>    * What outcome did you expect instead?
> The manpage of "open", /usr/share/man/man2/open.2.gz, from package
> "manpages-dev

The command is working as intended.

When manpages in multiple sections of the manual share the same name,
the page from the earliest section of the manual is fetched and
displayed in response to running 'man <manpage>'.

The xdg-utils package includes an alias for /usr/bin/xdg-open in the
form of /usr/bin/open. A manpage alias is included in the same fashion,
thus both sections 1 and 2 of the manual have a manpage for 'open'.

To specify from which section of the manual to display a manpage,
proceed the name of the manpage with the section number,
i.e.'man 2 open'. To display matching manpages from all sections, use
the -a option, i.e. 'man -a open'.

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Dear Maintainer,

*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***

   * What led up to the situation?
$ man open

   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
     ineffective)?
$ man open

   * What was the outcome of this action?
The manpage of xdg-open, /usr/share/man/man1/xdg-open.1.gz, from package "xdg-op

   * What outcome did you expect instead?
The manpage of "open", /usr/share/man/man2/open.2.gz, from package "manpages-dev


-- System Information:
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Release:    5
Codename:   daedalus ceres
Architecture: x86_64

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ii  libc6                  2.33-5
ii  libgdbm6               1.22-1
ii  libpipeline1           1.5.5-1
ii  libseccomp2            2.5.3-2
ii  zlib1g                 1:1.2.11.dfsg-2

man-db recommends no packages.

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pn  apparmor                            <none>
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ii  google-chrome-stable [www-browser]  98.0.4758.80-1
ii  groff                               1.22.4-8
ii  konqueror-trinity [www-browser]	4:14.1.0~s911-0debian12.0.0+17~a
ii  less                                590-1
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So what would you suggest? File a bugrport for "xdg-utils"?

Nik

Anno domini 2022 Fri, 18 Feb 01:05:32 -0600
 David (Plasma) Paul scripsit:
> Control: tags -1 wontfix
> 
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:42:40 +0100
> "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >    * What led up to the situation?
> > $ man open
> > 
> >    * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
> >      ineffective)?
> > $ man open
> > 
> >    * What was the outcome of this action?
> > The manpage of xdg-open, /usr/share/man/man1/xdg-open.1.gz, from
> > package "xdg-op
> > 
> >    * What outcome did you expect instead?
> > The manpage of "open", /usr/share/man/man2/open.2.gz, from package
> > "manpages-dev
> 
> The command is working as intended.
> 
> When manpages in multiple sections of the manual share the same name,
> the page from the earliest section of the manual is fetched and
> displayed in response to running 'man <manpage>'.
> 
> The xdg-utils package includes an alias for /usr/bin/xdg-open in the
> form of /usr/bin/open. A manpage alias is included in the same fashion,
> thus both sections 1 and 2 of the manual have a manpage for 'open'.
> 
> To specify from which section of the manual to display a manpage,
> proceed the name of the manpage with the section number,
> i.e.'man 2 open'. To display matching manpages from all sections, use
> the -a option, i.e. 'man -a open'.
> 



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On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 08:13:10AM +0100, Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> So what would you suggest? File a bugrport for "xdg-utils"?

You could try.

Looking at the xdg-utils changelog[1], this was introduced recently:

xdg-utils (1.1.3-3) unstable; urgency=medium

[...]

  [ Nicholas Guriev ]
  * t-xdg-open.sh: Fix quoting issues. Closes: #975228, Upstream: !32.
  * xdg-open: Open terminal window in generic mode if .desktop file requires so
    Closes: #964877, Upstream: #84.
  * desktop_file_to_binary: fix "unexpected operator" bug. Closes: #809877,
    Upstream: #182.
  * Remove Per Olofsson from Uploaders list. Thank you for your previous work!
    Closes: #847164.
  * Link to /usr/bin/open through alternatives mechanism. LP: #342584.
  * New autopkgtests with Bash and Dash.
  * Bump Standards-Version to 4.5.1, no required changes.

 -- Nicholas Guriev <[email protected]>  Sun, 10 Jan 2021 12:32:26 +0300

The Ubuntu bug is also worth reading[2], but might not give you much
encouragement.

Whilst it is only a workaround, you might be able to fix the behaviour with (untested)

  update-alternatives --remove open /usr/bin/open

Mark

[1]  https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/x/xdg-utils/changelog-1.1.3-4.1

[2]  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/342584

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