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Unneeded dependency for systemd-standalone-tmpfiles

Package: lvm2; Reported by: Klaus Ethgen <[email protected]>; Keywords: debian; Done: Mark Hindley <[email protected]>; Maintainer for lvm2 is (unknown).

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Klaus,

On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 09:23:52AM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Control: tags -1 debian
> 
> Klaus,
> 
> Thanks for this.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 08:17:20AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> > Package: lvm2
> > Version: 2.03.15-1
> > Severity: normal

Changes to debhelper mean that lvm2 no longer depends on
systemd-standalone-tmpfiles. So closing.

Mark
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On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 15:07:07 +0100
Klaus Ethgen <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Am Mo den  4. Jul 2022 um  9:23 schrieb Mark Hindley:
> > On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 08:17:20AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> > > Package: lvm2
> > > Version: 2.03.15-1
> > > Severity: normal
> > 
> > However, lvm2 is not forked in Devuan and we used Debian's packages directly
> > without recompilation. Please report this to Debian's BTS.
> 
> Sorry, no.
> 
> I had too many fights especially with this Michael Biebl who is one main
> driver of putting systemd dependencies in many, many unrelated tools. He
> does use his power to close real bugs with wontfix just as he can.
> 
> The bug above is a candidate for this I... to jump in and close it in
> this way.
> 
> I don't engage in such fights anymore. That was one main reason, I
> changed to devuan.
> 
> Regards
>    Klaus

Hi,
this package is available in devuan:

apt list *tmpfiles* -a
Listing... Done
systemd-standalone-tmpfiles/unstable 251.2-7 amd64
systemd-standalone-tmpfiles/stable-backports 250.4-1~bpo11+1 amd64

and seems not directly related with systemd:

Package: systemd-standalone-tmpfiles (251.2-7) 

standalone tmpfiles binary for use in non-systemd systems

Standalone tmpfiles binary with minimal dependencies. This package conflicts with the main systemd package and is meant for use in non-systemd systems. 

Ciao,
Tito
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Hi,

Am Mo den  4. Jul 2022 um  9:23 schrieb Mark Hindley:
> On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 08:17:20AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> > Package: lvm2
> > Version: 2.03.15-1
> > Severity: normal
> 
> However, lvm2 is not forked in Devuan and we used Debian's packages directly
> without recompilation. Please report this to Debian's BTS.

Sorry, no.

I had too many fights especially with this Michael Biebl who is one main
driver of putting systemd dependencies in many, many unrelated tools. He
does use his power to close real bugs with wontfix just as he can.

The bug above is a candidate for this I... to jump in and close it in
this way.

I don't engage in such fights anymore. That was one main reason, I
changed to devuan.

Regards
   Klaus
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Control: tags -1 debian

Klaus,

Thanks for this.

On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 08:17:20AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Package: lvm2
> Version: 2.03.15-1
> Severity: normal

However, lvm2 is not forked in Devuan and we used Debian's packages directly
without recompilation. Please report this to Debian's BTS.

Thanks

Mark
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Package: lvm2
Version: 2.03.15-1
Severity: normal

The new lvm2 package depends on systemd-standalone-tmpfiles which is
not mentioned in changelog and not used anywhere.

Please remove this poisoned dependency. I don't want any systemd
dependency on my system.

This is a violation of the debian package policy!

-- System Information:
Distributor ID:	Devuan
Description:	Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus/ceres)
Release:	5
Codename:	daedalus ceres
Architecture: x86_64

Kernel: Linux 5.16.17 (SMP w/8 CPU threads)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_FIRMWARE_WORKAROUND, TAINT_OOT_MODULE
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
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Init: sysvinit (via /sbin/init)

Versions of packages lvm2 depends on:
ii  dmeventd                                        2:1.02.183-1
ii  dmsetup                                         2:1.02.183-1
ii  init-system-helpers                             1.63devuan1
ii  libaio1                                         0.3.113-2
ii  libblkid1                                       2.38-4devuan1
ii  libc6                                           2.33-7
ii  libdevmapper-event1.02.1                        2:1.02.183-1
ii  libedit2                                        3.1-20210910-1
ii  libelogind-compat [libsystemd0]                 246.10-5
ii  libeudev1 [libudev1]                            3.2.11-1
ii  libselinux1                                     3.4-1
ii  lsb-base                                        11.2
ii  systemd-standalone-tmpfiles [systemd-tmpfiles]  251.2-7

Versions of packages lvm2 recommends:
pn  thin-provisioning-tools  <none>

lvm2 suggests no packages.

-- Configuration Files:
/etc/lvm/lvm.conf changed [not included]

-- no debconf information
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Klaus Ethgen                                       http://www.ethgen.ch/
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Acknowledgement sent to Klaus Ethgen <[email protected]>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to [email protected]. Full text available.
Report forwarded to [email protected], [email protected]:
bug#685; Package lvm2. Full text available.

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