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Nov 2023 um 16:22 schrieb Mark Hindley: > > As Lorenzo has pointed out, this is a result of Debian's > > implementation of merged-usr. > >=20 From what I understand most upstreams and Guix has no problems with merged /usr. It is an isolated Debian issue, right? > > Although this has been coming for a while, the impasse with the > > dpkg maintainer meant that Devuan was able to avoid enforcing > > merged-usr for the Daedalus release. However, Debian has now > > circumvented the dpkg maintainer and there is little more Devuan > > can do to resist. > [...] > > Believe me that I think this Debian exercise is a waste of time, > > driven by systemd dogma. However, for Devaun to attempt to fork > > every Debian package would just waste even more time. I do not > > believe this to be worthwhile. >=20 It seems to be around 40 packages according to Lorenzo, not too many. I volunteer to adopt 5-10 of them. Just let me know. > Yes, that is a disaster... My hope was, that at least Devuan is able > to mitigate it and keeping up the good quality that Debian was before > systemd. >=20 > However, I also see that there seems to be only few persons behind to > do the work. Count me in! If we won't resist Debian brainless mergerd /usr, I'll have no motivation to create a Devuan Port of GNU/Hurd. >=20 > It might be needed to fork the distribution completely. Well, at > least with the main packages. There could still be some compatibility > left for contrib and non-free. I mean, debian was small too in the > past. Why not start from scratch? (You even don't need to start > without anything) Maybe it is time for a cut. >=20 Yes, please! > I try to fix packages myself as I did for openssh[0], pcre2[1] and > since today pcsc-lite[2]. And I have now a massive ansible role to > fix all the debian bugs as well as nagios check for broken libraries > that should bein /lib. >=20 > > I believe you have two options (I fear you will find neither > > palatable, for which I apologise):- > >=20 > > =C2=A0- Install Daedalus and do not upgrade beyond that. > >=20 > > =C2=A0- Install the usrmerge package. >=20 > The last one will never be an option for me! Before that I would > destroy all my computers first or migrate to windows! (What, if you > know me, I would never do.) >=20 > The first would be a solution only up to when the support for that > distribution ends. I recently moverd all my desktops and laptops to Devuan/Daedalus, and would prefer to continue with Devuan! Otherwise, I would switch to Guix if Devuan no longer is an alternative. Never again adopt Debian/RedHat madness! Thanks!
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Nov 2023 um 16:22 schrieb Mark Hindley: > As Lorenzo has pointed out, this is a result of Debian's implementation of > merged-usr. > > Although this has been coming for a while, the impasse with the dpkg maintainer > meant that Devuan was able to avoid enforcing merged-usr for the Daedalus > release. However, Debian has now circumvented the dpkg maintainer and there is > little more Devuan can do to resist. [...] > Believe me that I think this Debian exercise is a waste of time, driven by > systemd dogma. However, for Devaun to attempt to fork every Debian package would > just waste even more time. I do not believe this to be worthwhile. Yes, that is a disaster... My hope was, that at least Devuan is able to mitigate it and keeping up the good quality that Debian was before systemd. However, I also see that there seems to be only few persons behind to do the work. > I imagine you will suggest forking wpasupplicant, however that one package is > not the fundamental issue here. Most, maybe all Debian packages are going to > have their binaries moved in the next few months and for Devuan to resist by > forking would be unsustainable. It might be needed to fork the distribution completely. Well, at least with the main packages. There could still be some compatibility left for contrib and non-free. I mean, debian was small too in the past. Why not start from scratch? (You even don't need to start without anything) Maybe it is time for a cut. I try to fix packages myself as I did for openssh[0], pcre2[1] and since today pcsc-lite[2]. And I have now a massive ansible role to fix all the debian bugs as well as nagios check for broken libraries that should be in /lib. > I believe you have two options (I fear you will find neither palatable, for > which I apologise):- > > - Install Daedalus and do not upgrade beyond that. > > - Install the usrmerge package. The last one will never be an option for me! Before that I would destroy all my computers first or migrate to windows! (What, if you know me, I would never do.) The first would be a solution only up to when the support for that distribution ends. 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Full text available.Received: (at 810) by bugs.devuan.org; 28 Nov 2023 15:24:04 +0000 Return-Path: <[email protected]> Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: from email.devuan.org [2a01:4f8:a0:3284::74ca:8ad2] by doc.devuan.org with IMAP (fetchmail-6.4.16) for <debbugs@localhost> (single-drop); Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from email.devuan.org by email.devuan.org with LMTP id pdx4LccFZmWTfAAAmSBk0A (envelope-from <[email protected]>) for <[email protected]>; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:22:47 +0000 Received: by email.devuan.org (Postfix, from userid 109) id 9A6B963F; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:22:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on email.devuan.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_DYNAMIC,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=193.36.131.86; helo=mx.hindley.org.uk; [email protected]; receiver=<UNKNOWN> Received: from mx.hindley.org.uk (193-36-131-86.cfwn.uk [193.36.131.86]) by email.devuan.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A376142 for <[email protected]>; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hindley.org.uk (apollo.hindleynet [192.168.1.3]) by mx.hindley.org.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 094069F4; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:22:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: (nullmailer pid 22775 invoked by uid 1000); Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:22:40 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:22:40 +0000 From: Mark Hindley <[email protected]> To: Klaus Ethgen <[email protected]> Cc: Devuan Bug Tracking System <[email protected]> Subject: Re: bug#810: Moved to /usr but all configs expect it in /sbin Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Control: reassign -1 devuan-project Control: affects -1 wpasupplicant Klaus, As Lorenzo has pointed out, this is a result of Debian's implementation of merged-usr. Although this has been coming for a while, the impasse with the dpkg maintainer meant that Devuan was able to avoid enforcing merged-usr for the Daedalus release. However, Debian has now circumvented the dpkg maintainer and there is little more Devuan can do to resist. I believe you have two options (I fear you will find neither palatable, for which I apologise):- - Install Daedalus and do not upgrade beyond that. - Install the usrmerge package. I imagine you will suggest forking wpasupplicant, however that one package is not the fundamental issue here. Most, maybe all Debian packages are going to have their binaries moved in the next few months and for Devuan to resist by forking would be unsustainable. Believe me that I think this Debian exercise is a waste of time, driven by systemd dogma. However, for Devaun to attempt to fork every Debian package would just waste even more time. I do not believe this to be worthwhile. Sorry, I know that will disappoint you. With best wishes Mark
Mark Hindley <[email protected]>:[email protected].
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This breaks network if the only way to access network is wlan. -- System Information: Distributor ID: Devuan Description: Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur/ceres) Release: 6 Codename: excalibur ceres Architecture: x86_64 Kernel: Linux 6.4.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/16 CPU threads; PREEMPT) Kernel taint flags: TAINT_WARN, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE Locale: LANG=3DC, LC_CTYPE=3DC.UTF-8 (charmap=3DUTF-8), LANGUAGE not set Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Init: sysvinit (via /sbin/init) LSM: AppArmor: enabled Versions of packages wpasupplicant depends on: ii adduser 3.137 ii libc6 2.37-12 ii libdbus-1-3 1.14.10-3devuan1 ii libnl-3-200 3.7.0-0.2+b1 ii libnl-genl-3-200 3.7.0-0.2+b1 ii libnl-route-3-200 3.7.0-0.2+b1 ii libpcsclite1 2.0.1-1devuan1+1 ii libreadline8 8.2-3 ii libssl3 3.1.4-2 wpasupplicant recommends no packages. Versions of packages wpasupplicant suggests: pn libengine-pkcs11-openssl <none> pn wpagui <none> -- no debconf information Gru=DF Klaus --=20 Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen <[email protected]> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C --UyYhYg5CYQsw4OsD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Charset: ISO-8859-1 iQGzBAABCgAdFiEEMWF28vh4/UMJJLQEpnwKsYAZ9qwFAmVlyX4ACgkQpnwKsYAZ 9qxHegv/WPel1IGUf6ll11oP1QNmWMbtnLcW2MwjxvJO/nL6RFu4/7ZrJuhQYA3B ZBrHHxdSHs2uEBrUKFq/Fckf/j9qZf5Vb3qShwLP0D8pMLc2NAwbEfrSXCrl5cXD O865EYd/lDPDcF54Fv3OUk0DxjWSXoGPd+iR0jGyp1cLJt8c5wFzS+KhAqrY6Sih cHq/zGDHoHw3nhl4yVbw/mFQ66ul6xDgpJ0C13pvxRp/TAVqSkFQ5pErB8xMLTWD yB18lfougVCUBz8li6TVTfhf6/nuiLsiQjFuxW0eURENbFkcAYUMe9zYgZOXep40 ejFO1QpjqLKVwCLFV/O1N2jeFLiE0wjIUhFB3H7RTFkr6WOgrEfc/uC5OMNygc/i TB2OxSxMch8SKCJrT7BlDEsA3n3rVIQ6/1x104sPeb8HNpQj9dlDXyEv1bn+YtHO 7RmBWfT4BTuImMYbb6099wIcpW20IKoL9mBzL1p27kJ5xiITPnFLe15ao97SS1QF 0LtvtA8p =jbpq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UyYhYg5CYQsw4OsD--
Klaus Ethgen <[email protected]>:[email protected].
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