Devuan bug report logs - #824
Usrmerge not set during installation

Package: devuan daedalus installer; Reported by: Rolf Heinrichs <[email protected]>; dated Wed, 3 Jan 2024 13:08:02 UTC; Maintainer for devuan is (unknown).

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Subject: Re: [devuan-dev] bug#824: Usrmerge not set during installation
From: Rolf Heinrichs <[email protected]>
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Am Mittwoch, dem 03.01.2024 um 23:09 +0100 schrieb Svante Signell:
> On Wed, 2024-01-03 at 14:05 +0100, Rolf Heinrichs wrote:
> > > Package: Devuan Daedalus Installer
> > > Version: 5.0.1
> > >=20
> > > I am using German locale, Daedalus 5.01 netinstall, expert mode.
> > > When
> > > following this
> > > thread=C2=A0https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3D6290=C2=A0in
> > > the Dev1Galaxy forum I realised that the installer does not apply
> > > usrmerge as expected despite answering the question with "Ja" =3D
> > > yes
> > > during installation. I am sure I requested this option during the
> > > installation, since usrmerge is in discussion since Beowulf. But
> > > I
> > > can't see the symbolic links being set on my Cinnamon DE. Also
> > > checked
> > > some VMs and older PC in my basement that was installed some
> > > weeks ago.
> > > No trace showing usrmerge anywhere. My fault that I never really
> > > checked before.
> > >=20
> > > Just tried a fresh install in a VM deliberately answering no.
> > > usrmerge
> > > isn't present. After first reboot I manually installed the
> > > usrmerge
> > > package, that did set the symbolic links as expected.
> > >=20
> > > I guess this flaw in the installer affects also Beowulf and
> > > Chimaera.
> > > AFAIK there is no installer for Excalibut yet.
> > >=20
> > > Please fix.
>=20
> For your information Daedalus and Chimaera are not infected by
> usrmerge, and
> will never be. So there is no reason why the installers would install
> that
> package (except if you explicitly! There is nothing to fix here.
>=20
> Thanks!=20

Dear Svante,=C2=A0

thank you for your answer. Sorry, I don't agree to that there is
nothing to fix.

Looks like the topic usrmerge is highly uploaded emotionaly, I try to
neutralize my request to the installer. I am just a stupid happy user
of  Devuan, I'd like to leave the discussion about the pros and cons of
usrmerge to the experts.

Well, the Daedalus installer in expert mode asks a question about the
application of an optional package. You as a user can agree or deny. As
a matter of fact the optional package isn't installed no matter if you
agreed or denied to the question.

Isn't such a response from the installer what one would call the
prototype of a bug description? I explicitly asked for the installation
of the optional package, and it did not happen? And this is not a bug?
Please explain.=20

For my convenience I am using German locale. I can confirm that there
is no error in translation.=C2=A0No matter if I answer Ja oder Nein, the
optional package never is installed.

I also been through a standard installation process which I did not use
for a long time. This use case does not bother the user with the
question for this optional package, and does not install it. Use case
ok.

As far as I understand Golinux summery on Dev1Galaxy usrmerge is sort
of unavoidable for the Devuan user.

Thank you, Rolf  =20

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On Wed, 2024-01-03 at 14:05 +0100, Rolf Heinrichs wrote:
> > Package: Devuan Daedalus Installer
> > Version: 5.0.1
> >=20
> > I am using German locale, Daedalus 5.01 netinstall, expert mode. When
> > following this thread=A0https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3D6290=
=A0in
> > the Dev1Galaxy forum I realised that the installer does not apply
> > usrmerge as expected despite answering the question with "Ja" =3D yes
> > during installation. I am sure I requested this option during the
> > installation, since usrmerge is in discussion since Beowulf. But I
> > can't see the symbolic links being set on my Cinnamon DE. Also checked
> > some VMs and older PC in my basement that was installed some weeks ago.
> > No trace showing usrmerge anywhere. My fault that I never really
> > checked before.
> >=20
> > Just tried a fresh install in a VM deliberately answering no. usrmerge
> > isn't present. After first reboot I manually installed the usrmerge
> > package, that did set the symbolic links as expected.
> >=20
> > I guess this flaw in the installer affects also Beowulf and Chimaera.
> > AFAIK there is no installer for Excalibut yet.
> >=20
> > Please fix.

For your information Daedalus and Chimaera are not infected by usrmerge, an=
d
will never be. So there is no reason why the installers would install that
package (except if you explicitly! There is nothing to fix here.

Thanks!=20

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Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to [email protected]. Full text available.

Information forwarded to [email protected], [email protected]:
bug#824; Package devuan daedalus installer. Full text available.

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Package: Devuan Daedalus Installer
Version: 5.0.1

I am using German locale, Daedalus 5.01 netinstall, expert mode. When
following this thread=C2=A0https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3D6290 i=
n
the Dev1Galaxy forum I realised that the installer does not apply
usrmerge as expected despite answering the question with "Ja" =3D yes
during installation. I am sure I requested this option during the
installation, since usrmerge is in discussion since Beowulf. But I
can't see the symbolic links being set on my Cinnamon DE. Also checked
some VMs and older PC in my basement that was installed some weeks ago.
No trace showing usrmerge anywhere. My fault that I never really
checked before.

Just tried a fresh install in a VM deliberately answering no. usrmerge
isn't present. After first reboot I manually installed the usrmerge
package, that did set the symbolic links as expected.

I guess this flaw in the installer affects also Beowulf and Chimaera.
AFAIK there is no installer for Excalibut yet.

Please fix.

Acknowledgement sent to Rolf Heinrichs <[email protected]>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to [email protected]. Full text available.

Report forwarded to [email protected], [email protected]:
bug#824; Package devuan daedalus installer. Full text available.

Devuan bug report logs - #824 Usrmerge not set during installation

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Usrmerge not set during installation