Devuan logs - #854, boring messages

Message sent to [email protected], Ralph Ronnquist <[email protected]>:

Subject: bug#854: devuan-installer: Please bring back s <enter> to start Install with speech
Reply-To: Gregory Nowak <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Resent-From: Gregory Nowak <[email protected]>
Resent-To: [email protected]
Resent-CC: Ralph Ronnquist <[email protected]>
Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 01:44:01 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Resent-Sender: [email protected]
Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=174.136.110.154; helo=vserver.gregn.net; [email protected]; receiver=<UNKNOWN> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
From: Gregory Nowak <[email protected]>
To: Devuan Bug Tracking System <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <172334058646.29091.14740843075701228658.reportbug@pegasus.gregn.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 18:43:06 -0700

Package: devuan-installer
Severity: normal
Tags: a11y

Dear Maintainer,

Please bring back the ability to start Install with speech synthesis by using s
<enter> in the devuan installer. The removal of this option has caused confusion as evidenced by discussions on the speakup mailing list which isn't currently archived.
Most users don't bother to look for BOOTHELP.txt on the install CD/DVD images. The change to the boot menu is also not documented in the Daedalus release notes, even though I provided text documenting the change during discussions on the DNG mailing list.
Bringing back s <enter> to start the install with speech synthesis also means this would remain constant if the boot menu were to change from what it is in Daedalus in the future.
I will be providing a URL to this bug report on the speakup list so that others
may share their thoughts on this issue.
Thank you for considering this important issue.
 

-- System Information:
Distributor ID:	Devuan
Description:	Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus)
Release:	5
Codename:	daedalus
Architecture: x86_64

Kernel: Linux 6.1.0-23-amd64 (SMP w/16 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: sysvinit (via /sbin/init)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Message sent:

Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
X-Loop: [email protected]
From: "Devuan bug Tracking System" <[email protected]>
To: Gregory Nowak <[email protected]>
Subject: bug#854: Acknowledgement (devuan-installer: Please bring back s
 <enter> to start Install with speech)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <172334058646.29091.14740843075701228658.reportbug@pegasus.gregn.net>
X-Devuan-PR-Message: ack 854
X-Devuan-PR-Package: devuan-installer
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 01:44:02 +0000

Thank you for filing a new bug report with Devuan.

You can follow progress on this bug here: 854: https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/=
bugreport.cgi?bug=3D854.

This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message
has been received.

Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other
interested parties for their attention; they will reply in due course.

Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s):
 Ralph Ronnquist <[email protected]>

If you wish to submit further information on this problem, please
send it to [email protected].

Please do not send mail to [email protected] unless you wish
to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system.

--=20
854: https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D854
Devuan Bug Tracking System
Contact [email protected] with problems

Message sent to [email protected], Ralph Ronnquist <[email protected]>:

Subject: bug#854: Acknowledgement (devuan-installer: Please bring back s <enter> to start Install with speech)
Reply-To: Gregory Nowak <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Resent-From: Gregory Nowak <[email protected]>
Resent-To: [email protected]
Resent-CC: Ralph Ronnquist <[email protected]>
Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 01:50:01 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Resent-Sender: [email protected]
References: <172334058646.29091.14740843075701228658.reportbug@pegasus.gregn.net> <[email protected]> <172334058646.29091.14740843075701228658.reportbug@pegasus.gregn.net>
Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=2607:f2f8:a260::2; helo=vserver.gregn.net; [email protected]; receiver=<UNKNOWN> 
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 18:46:39 -0700
From: Gregory Nowak <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

I just found out the speakup list is still being archived. Here's the
URL to the discussion prompting this bug report:

https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-speakup/msg63898.html

Message sent:

Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
X-Loop: [email protected]
From: "Devuan bug Tracking System" <[email protected]>
To: Gregory Nowak <[email protected]>
Subject: bug#854: Info received (bug#854: Acknowledgement (devuan-installer:
 Please bring back s <enter> to start Install with speech))
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
X-Devuan-PR-Message: ack-info 854
X-Devuan-PR-Package: devuan-installer
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 01:50:02 +0000

Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding
this bug report.

This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message
has been received.

Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other
interested parties for their attention; they will reply in due course.

Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s):
 Ralph Ronnquist <[email protected]>

If you wish to submit further information on this problem, please
send it to [email protected].

Please do not send mail to [email protected] unless you wish
to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system.

--=20
854: https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D854
Devuan Bug Tracking System
Contact [email protected] with problems

Message sent to [email protected], Ralph Ronnquist <[email protected]>:

X-Loop: [email protected]
Subject: bug#854: devuan-installer: Please bring back s <enter> to start Install with speech
Reply-To: Ralph Ronnquist <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Resent-From: Ralph Ronnquist <[email protected]>
Resent-To: [email protected]
Resent-CC: Ralph Ronnquist <[email protected]>
X-Loop: [email protected]
Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 12:06:01 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Resent-Sender: [email protected]
X-Devuan-PR-Message: followup 854
X-Devuan-PR-Package: devuan-installer
X-Devuan-PR-Keywords: 
References: <172334058646.29091.14740843075701228658.reportbug@pegasus.gregn.net>
Received: via spool by [email protected] id=B854.172657467226883
          (code B ref 854); Tue, 17 Sep 2024 12:06:01 +0000
Received: (at 854) by bugs.devuan.org; 17 Sep 2024 12:04:32 +0000
Delivered-To: [email protected]
Received: from email.devuan.org [2a01:4f9:fff1:13::5fd9:f9e4]
	by doc.devuan.org with IMAP (fetchmail-6.4.16)
	for <debbugs@localhost> (single-drop); Tue, 17 Sep 2024 12:04:32 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from email.devuan.org
	by email.devuan.org with LMTP
	id WqGpKP1v6WaqUwAAmSBk0A
	(envelope-from <[email protected]>)
	for <[email protected]>; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 12:03:09 +0000
Received: by email.devuan.org (Postfix, from userid 109)
	id 85F86647; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 12:03:09 +0000 (UTC)
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on email.devuan.org
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE
	autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6
Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=67.219.104.166; helo=mta.rrq.au; [email protected]; receiver=<UNKNOWN> 
Received: from mta.rrq.au (mta.rrq.au [67.219.104.166])
	by email.devuan.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D63E6189
	for <[email protected]>; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 12:03:07 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from stubbe.hemma (stuga.lan.hemma [192.168.10.7])
	by mta.rrq.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1C999160D91
	for <[email protected]>; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 22:03:04 +1000 (AEST)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 22:03:54 +1000
From: Ralph Ronnquist <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline

The Devuan installer ISO has a boot screen offering options 1-8, where
1-4 are without speech and 5-8 are the same options with speech. This
is a quite different boot menu system from the previous one where the
shortcut S selected something. Here the options are selected with
their numbers and unfortunately syslinux doesn't offer multiple
shortcuts for options which otherwise would have made it easy to also
select 5 by S.

For sure the boot screen layout could be documented more and at more
places. As far as I remember BOOTHELP.txt largely contains your
contributed text. It was stuffed into the media to ba immediately
available when inspecting it but, as you indicate, that will obviously
only be useful for people who pay attention.

Thank you for the feedback. I'm sure the new team will take it into
consideration for future installer ISO publishing.

regards,

Ralph.

Message sent:

Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
X-Loop: [email protected]
From: "Devuan bug Tracking System" <[email protected]>
To: Ralph Ronnquist <[email protected]>
Subject: bug#854: Info received (devuan-installer: Please bring back s
 <enter> to start Install with speech)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
X-Devuan-PR-Message: ack-info 854
X-Devuan-PR-Package: devuan-installer
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 12:06:06 +0000

Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding
this bug report.

This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message
has been received.

Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other
interested parties for their attention; they will reply in due course.

Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s):
 Ralph Ronnquist <[email protected]>

If you wish to submit further information on this problem, please
send it to [email protected].

Please do not send mail to [email protected] unless you wish
to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system.

--=20
854: https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D854
Devuan Bug Tracking System
Contact [email protected] with problems