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Package: plymouth
Version: 0.9.2-4

When attempting to `apt-get install plymouth` , apt-get complains that=20
plymouth requires systemd, which has no installation candidates. The output:

root@Printers:~# apt-get install plymouth
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 plymouth : Depends: systemd (>=3D 232-8~) but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
root@Printers:~# apt-get install plymouth systemd
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package systemd is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
  udev libsystemd-dev libnss-mymachines libnss-myhostname systemd-bootchart=
=20
systemd-coredump systemd-container
  libnss-resolve ifupdown

E: Package 'systemd' has no installation candidate

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Hi,

plymouth is *not* available from Devuan repos, exactly because it
directly depends on "systemd:". How did you get it? Is it possible
that you are using other repos on top of Devuan ones?


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Package: plymouth
Version: 0.9.2-4

When attempting to `apt-get install plymouth` , apt-get complains that=20
plymouth requires systemd, which has no installation candidates. The output:

root@Printers:~# apt-get install plymouth
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 plymouth : Depends: systemd (>=3D 232-8~) but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
root@Printers:~# apt-get install plymouth systemd
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package systemd is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
  udev libsystemd-dev libnss-mymachines libnss-myhostname systemd-bootchart=
=20
systemd-coredump systemd-container
  libnss-resolve ifupdown

E: Package 'systemd' has no installation candidate

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Closing this one, since plymouth directly depends on systemd, and the
package is banned (it's not present) in Devuan repos. The only way to
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Closing this one, since plymouth directly depends on systemd, and the
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Date: Tuesday 29 May 2018, 08:08:21 am
Subject: Re: bug#211 acknowledged by developer (wontfix)

On Tuesday 29 May 2018 at 07:33:07 am, Devuan bug Tracking System wrote:
> This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report
> #211: plymouth requires systemd,
> which was filed against the plymouth package.
>
> It has been closed by one of the developers, namely
> KatolaZ <[email protected]>.
>
> Their explanation is attached below.  If this explanation is
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> message then please contact the developer, by replying to this email.
>
> Devuan Bugs Owner
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> Closing this one, since plymouth directly depends on systemd, and the
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Plymouth does not appear to be banned from Devuan's repositories. On a syst=
em=20
with Devuan Jessie, I am able to install Plymouth without any dependency=20
issues despite not having systemd present, and it appears to run perfectly=
=20
with the default init system (SystemV, I believe) in Jessie. Furthermore, I=
=20
get the following output when searching for plymouth on Devuan Ascii (I did=
=20
do an `apt-get update` immediately prior to be sure it was correct):


root@Printers:~# apt-cache search plymouth
libplymouth-dev - graphical boot animation and logger - development files
libplymouth4 - graphical boot animation and logger - shared libraries
plymouth - boot animation, logger and I/O multiplexer
plymouth-themes - boot animation, logger and I/O multiplexer - themes
plymouth-x11 - boot animation, logger and I/O multiplexer - X11 renderer
plymouth-theme-hamara - boot animation, logger and I/O multiplexer - Hamara=
=20
theme


If plymouth was changed upstream to require systemd (rather than by Debian =
or=20
Devuan packagers despite not actually being required), I am not opposed to=
=20
removing it from the Devuan repos, but it clearly isn't banned (yet) if I a=
m=20
able to search it and attempt install.

=2D-=20
Kristopher Gamrat
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> On Tuesday, January 02, 2666 at 12:02:46 PM, Kris said:
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Which repos are you using? Please post the output of

  $ apt-cache policy plymouth

There is no plymouth package in ascii, since it depends directly on
systemd. The most probably reason why you get it is because you are
using other non-Devuan repos.

Please let us know.

Regards

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