Devuan bug report logs - #844
systemd-boot-efi: Broken man pages

Package: systemd-boot-efi; Severity: minor; Reported by: murzik <[email protected]>; Keywords: debian; dated Sun, 24 Mar 2024 23:02:02 UTC; Maintainer for systemd-boot-efi is (unknown).

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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2024 13:33:38 +1100
From: murzik <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: bug#844: systemd-boot-efi: Broken man pages
To: Mark Hindley <[email protected]>
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Interesting. but it seems to me that adding a dependency on systemd 
because of one (!!) documentation file will be a very strange decision. 
this file will most likely be moved from the systemd package, or even 
just a copy of it added to the package.
Also, I found an alternative - stubby 
<https://github.com/puzzleos/stubby>.
so even if a dependency on systemd is added, it shouldn't cause any 
inconvenience.
I'll report it to debian bug tracker later.

On Thu, Apr 4 2024 at 01:23:34 PM +11:00:00, murzik 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Interesting. but it seems to me that adding a dependency on systemd 
> because of one (!!) documentation file will be a very strange 
> decision. this file will most likely be moved from the systemd 
> package, or even just a copy of it added to the package.
> Also, I found an alternative - stubby core.
> so even if a dependency on systemd is added, it shouldn't cause any 
> inconvenience
> Interesting. but it seems to me that adding a dependency on systemd 
> because of one (!!) documentation file will be a very strange 
> decision. this file will most likely be moved from the systemd 
> package, or even just a copy of it added to the package.
> Also, I found an alternative - stubby core.
> so even if a dependency on systemd is added, it shouldn't cause any 
> inconvenience
> Interesting. but it seems to me that adding a dependency on systemd 
> because of one (!!) documentation file will be a very strange 
> decision. this file will most likely be moved from the systemd 
> package, or even just a copy of it added to the package.
> Also, I found an alternative - stubby core.
> so even if a dependency on systemd is added, it shouldn't cause any 
> inconvenience
> Interesting. but it seems to me that adding a dependency on systemd 
> because of one (!!) documentation file will be a very strange 
> decision. this file will most likely be moved from the systemd 
> package, or even just a copy of it added to the package.
> Also, I found an alternative - stubby 
> https://github.com/puzzleos/stubby.
> so even if a dependency on systemd is added, it shouldn't cause any 
> inconvenience.
> I'll report it to debian bug tracker later.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 3 2024 at 01:11:15 PM +01:00:00, Mark Hindley 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 10:07:50PM +1100, murzik wrote:
>>>     As far as I can tell, the project has experience in this.
>>>     we already have systemd-bootchart; systmed-sysusers-standalone;
>>>     systemd-tpmfiles-standalone; systemd-oomd.. I don't think 
>>> adding one
>>>     standalone package will be a problem.
>> 
>> All of those are Debian packages. Devuan doesn't produce any systemd
>> standalone packages.
>> 
>> Mark


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me that adding a dependency on systemd because of one (!!) documentation fi=
le will be a very strange decision. this file will most likely be moved fro=
m the systemd package, or even just a copy of it added to the package.
Also, I found an alternative - stubby core.
so even if a dependency on systemd is added, it shouldn't cause any inconve=
nience</span></div>Interesting. but it seems to me that adding a dependency=
 on systemd because of one (!!) documentation file will be a very strange d=
ecision. this file will most likely be moved from the systemd package, or e=
ven just a copy of it added to the package.<div>Also, I found an alternativ=
e - stubby https://github.com/puzzleos/stubby.</div><div>so even if a depen=
dency on systemd is added, it shouldn't cause any inconvenience.<br>I'll re=
port it to debian bug tracker later.<br><br>On Wed, Apr 3 2024 at 01:11:15 =
PM +01:00:00, Mark Hindley &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:<br><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"plaintext" style=3D"white-space: break-spaces=
;">On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 10:07:50PM +1100, murzik wrote:
<blockquote>    As far as I can tell, the project has experience in this.
    we already have systemd-bootchart; systmed-sysusers-standalone;
    systemd-tpmfiles-standalone; systemd-oomd.. I don't think adding one
    standalone package will be a problem.
</blockquote>
All of those are Debian packages. Devuan doesn't produce any systemd=20
standalone packages.

Mark
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