Devuan bug report logs - #884
/etc/logrotate.d/ulogd2: Questionable use of invoke-rc.d

Package: init-system-helpers; Reported by: Opty <[email protected]>; Keywords: moreinfo debian; merged with #881, #882, #883; dated Tue, 1 Apr 2025 12:50:15 UTC; Maintainer for init-system-helpers is Devuan Dev Team <[email protected]>.

Merged 881 882 883 884 Request was from mark <[email protected]> to [email protected]. Full text available.

Added tag(s) moreinfo. Request was from mark <[email protected]> to [email protected]. Full text available.

Marked as found in versions init-system-helpers/1.65.2devuan1. Request was from mark <[email protected]> to [email protected]. Full text available.

No longer marked as found in versions 2.0.8-1. Request was from mark <[email protected]> to [email protected]. Full text available.

bug reassigned from package 'ulogd2' to 'init-system-helpers'. Request was from mark <[email protected]> to [email protected]. Full text available.

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On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 01:58:20PM +0200, Opty wrote:
> Please see #881 or should I copy the story here as well?

No. Really these are all the same issue. I will merge them for now while we look
at the detail.

Mark

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Subject: Re: bug#884: /etc/logrotate.d/ulogd2: Questionable use of invoke-rc.d
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On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 6:44=E2=80=AFPM Mark Hindley <[email protected]> w=
rote:
> Possibly, but I am not sure. Certainly all the other /etc/logrotate.d exa=
mples I
> can find use invoke-rc.d. It may be to prevent rotation in chroots and th=
e like
> when it would fail. Also, if you have prevented services from starting in=
t he
> first place, there is no need to rotate the logs later. Why do you have
> policy-rcd-declarative-deny-all installed? What is your intention in doin=
g that?

Please see #881 or should I copy the story here as well?

> However, I am sure that ulogd2 isn't forked in Devuan and so this should =
be
> reported directly to Debian's BTS if you really think there is an issue.

Now that Debian uses systemd by default I considered Devuan a better
place for System V style init stuff but I will think about reporting
to Debian BTS then.

Regards,
Opty

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Control: tags -1 debian

Opty,

On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 02:47:49PM +0200, Opty wrote:
> Package: ulogd2
> Version: 2.0.8-1
> 
> /etc/logrotate.d/ulogd2 uses invoke-rc.d to notify ulogd2 to reopen
> logs but it doesn't work when using policy-rcd-declarative-deny-all so
> shouldn't the logrotate configuration snippet use rather 'service' ?

Possibly, but I am not sure. Certainly all the other /etc/logrotate.d examples I
can find use invoke-rc.d. It may be to prevent rotation in chroots and the like
when it would fail. Also, if you have prevented services from starting int he
first place, there is no need to rotate the logs later. Why do you have
policy-rcd-declarative-deny-all installed? What is your intention in doing that?
                                                                                                                                                           
However, I am sure that ulogd2 isn't forked in Devuan and so this should be
reported directly to Debian's BTS if you really think there is an issue.

Mark

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Subject: /etc/logrotate.d/ulogd2: Questionable use of invoke-rc.d
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Package: ulogd2
Version: 2.0.8-1

/etc/logrotate.d/ulogd2 uses invoke-rc.d to notify ulogd2 to reopen
logs but it doesn't work when using policy-rcd-declarative-deny-all so
shouldn't the logrotate configuration snippet use rather 'service' ?

Regards,
Opty

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